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Men of the Coin

Debate in meaning of democracy: between people who are chosen to perform the task of representing the will of the masses (by means of polls and talking with the people) and those who are chosen by the masses because their existing principles are appealing to the masses - pollsters versus statesmen.

In a market system, by and large we have the equivalent of statesmen - the "invisible hand" in theory selects producers that are likable to the consumer as measured by money flows (in practice, almost always price is the main or only factor and society controls gross undesirability and manages structured negotiation through laws). Unfortunately, these statesmen are even worse than real statesmen as they almost always seek little but profit for themselves. Amusingly sad when "duty to the shareholder" becomes a legal mandate against deviation from being maximally selfish - more companies should presumably lose their public charter through plebicite or other means of determining that they no longer serve the public interest, or possibly they should have to be approved and renewed every ten years or so through a process more discriminatory on those criteria and more prone to electoral input (ideally remote from the executive and judicial branches of government, possibly self-managed and not part of legislative either).

Either way, I think the "I select the one I like from a variety by some principles and other characteristics they have" versus "I want someone whom I can control" division is a particularly important measuring tool for understanding power relations and choice.

Market systems based on more of a control system would be quite interesting - although as mentioned we have some elements of control (via laws and regulations), they occur in a highly mediated, nonspecific form. For individuals, traditions of rule of law act to protect the unpopular from being punished for being unpopular for nonspecific actions, but do corporations need the same protections? Most employees in most companies probably are "at-will employees" -- whenever they are thought not to serve a positive role/purpose in the company they can be fired. Perhaps corporations should be treated as coldly as that as well.

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more companies should presumably lose their public charter through plebicite or other means of determining that they no longer serve the public interest, or possibly they should have to be approved and renewed every ten years or so

Some days I think that people who respond to this with "you can't do that! companies have rights!" should be killed on the spot for "Gross Failure to Get It" and "Danger to the Human Race."

Of course, some days I think lots of things. :-)